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47595. Ben Vost                  Re: Hello everyone.
47596. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: A1200 Qs
47597. Nick Lamburn              Re: which one is the best?
47598. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Hello everyone.
47599. Ben Vost                  Re: I love AMIGA Inc. (A4000T rails and workbench
47600. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: I love AMIGA Inc. (A4000T rails and workbench
47601. Nick Lamburn              Re: I love AMIGA Inc. (A4000T rails and workbench
47602. [e-mail]    WBPerplexity
47603. Erol Ismael               Re: which one is the best?  A3000
47604. Ben Vost                  Re: Welcome message
47605. Ben Vost                  Re: Hello everyone.
47606. Ben Vost                  Re: I love AMIGA Inc. (A4000T rails and workbench
47607. Nick Lamburn              Amiga Quiz
47608. Erol Ismael               Re: which one is the best?
47609. Eric Oddy                 MANAGE : re: members list
47610. Nick Lamburn              Re: which one is the best?
47611. Ben Vost                  Re: which one is the best?
47612. Ben Vost                  Re: MANAGE : re: members list
47613. Erol Ismael               Re: which one is the best?
47614. Neil Bothwick             Re: what do u use ur miggy 4???
47615. Neil Bothwick             Re: help?
47616. Neil Bothwick             Re: Aweb Newicon
47617. Neil Bothwick             Re: Pirated OS3.5
47618. Matthew O'Neill           Re: where ya java* gone..... wheres ya java*gone!
47619. Nick Lamburn              Czech Amiga News
47620. John Bragg                Re: Czech Amiga News
47621. Tudor Davies              Re: Czech Amiga News
47622. Nick Lamburn              Re: A1200 Qs
47623. Nick Lamburn              Re: A1200 Qs
47624. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: CD contents
47625. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: I love AMIGA Inc. (A4000T rails and workbench
47626. Gerald Mellor             Re: (OT) Astronomical figures
47627. Ben Vost                  Re: CD contents
47628. Ben Vost                  Re: where ya java* gone..... wheres ya java*gone!
47629. Paul Laycock              Re: Amiga Quiz
47630. Gerald Mellor             Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement...
47631. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: CD contents
47632. William                    Pirate Ftp Site (fwd)
47633. William                   Re: AFB addiction
47634. William                   Re: Hello everyone.
47635. William                   Re: Theme of Amiga
47636. Gerald Mellor             Re: Spoon-bending supremos
47637. Chris Green               Re: which one is the best?
47638. Gerald Mellor             Re: The falling circulation numbers.
47639. Nick Lamburn              Re: Amiga Quiz
47640. Gerald Mellor             Re: Hello everyone.
47641. Stephen Marriott          Analogic Acquires Squirrels
47642. Vincenzo Morra            Re: Hello, I'm new !
47643. Vincenzo Morra            Re: Pirated OS3.5
47644. Mark Wilson               Re: Vaporware (was re: PIRACY-SUCKS)
47645. Errol                     Your website on Amiga Format CD52
47646. Matthew J Fletcher        Re: Pirated OS3.5
47647. Neil Bothwick             Re: '' Zippity do da, Zippity Day
47648. Neil Bothwick             Re: Aweb Newicon
47649. Ben Vost                  Re: Aweb Newicon
47650. Robert Johnston           Re: Wordsmithing (Was: " Aweb Newicon")
47651. Matthew Garrett           Re: (OT) Astronomical figures (was Heart106.2 (Wa
47652. Ben Vost                  Re: Wordsmithing (Was: " Aweb Newicon")
47653. Ben Vost                  Re: (OT) Astronomical figures (was Heart106.2 (Wa
47654. Robert Johnston           Re: Wordsmithing (Was: " Aweb Newicon")
47655. Mark Wilson               Amibench on AFCD Roms.
47656. Kevin Fairhurst           STRICQ goes open-source
47657. Ken Walsh                 Re: Cd-rom prob
47658. William                   Re: Hello everyone.
47659. William                   AF 134 comments
47660. Ben Vost                  Re: AF 134 comments
47661. Jos                      Important Information
47662. Robert Johnston           Re: AF 134 comments
47663. Ben Vost                  Re: AF 134 comments
47664. Stephen Thwaites          IMHO
47665. Ben Vost                  Re: IMHO
47666. [e-mail]    Re: IMHO
47667. Toffypops                 Re: what do u use ur miggy 4???
47668. Stephen Marriott          Re: IMHO
47669. Tom Miles                 Re: To all the AF team and Amiga users
47670. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: IMHO
47671. Toffypops                 Haven't seen a replye...
47672. Ben Vost                  Re: Haven't seen a replye...
47673. Tudor Davies              Re: (OT) Astronomical figures (was Heart106.2 (Wa
47674. Toffypops                 Re: Haven't seen a replye...
47675. Matthew O'Neill           Re: bt go home
47676. Matthew O'Neill           network
47677. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Power Probs
47678. Neil Bothwick             Re: CD contents
47679. Neil Bothwick             Re: Theme of Amiga
47680. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Haven't seen a replye...
47681. Chris Addis               active technologies
47682. Kevin Fairhurst           Paraglide press release
47683. Neil Bothwick             Re: bt go home
47684. Mark Wilson               AmiBench News
47685. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Where's Tudor (broken leg) was  Sorry for bei
47686. Matthew O'Neill           Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9.
47687. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Pirated OS3.5 (fwd) (fwd)
47688. Matthew O'Neill           Re: New ABC
47689. Paul Cundle               Re: (Fwd) AF submissions
47690. Jonathan Day              Re: AF 134 comments
47691. Jonathan Day              Re: A1200 Qs
47692. Jonathan Day              Re: AFB addiction
47693. Jonathan Day              Re: Analogic Acquires Squirrels
47694. Jonathan Day              Re: Amibench on AFCD Roms.
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------------------------------ message 47595 ------------------------------
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:46:37 +0000
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Hi Tony,

> Hi one and all,
> I'm new to the group & a complete newbie |-O.
> I've been lurking for the past two days(like many others i imagine).
> Anyway i 'm going to have a stab at what's on next issues cd.
> Ben is it........Amiga Writer?
> Bye now Tony.

Welcome Tony, and no (not that I'd say if it *were* the correct answer).

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A computer program does what you tell it to do, not necessarily what
you want it to do.




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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 09:50:40 +0000
In-Reply-To: <000801bf792b$4dfdda60$ea015cc3@ThisComputer>
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:41:54 -0000, Matthew Wise (matthew@wise25=2Eswintern=
et=2Eco=2Euk) wrote:
> Hi fellow Amiga owning ppl,

1)  Hello
2)  Please don't post with HTML attatched

> A couple of weeks ago I posted some questions about a bargain 1200 I was =
going to buy=2E  Well a couple of days ago that bargain arrived=2E (=A360+=
=A310 p&p for an A1200, Blizzard 1230 030/50MHz accelerator card with 8Mb, =
170Mb HDD, Multisync monitor, external 1=2E76Mb XL floppy drive (whatever t=
his is - HD floppy drive even?), several leads, joysticks, mice etc=2E and =
a sh*tload of floppy disks in disk boxes!)

Only =A310 P&P??

> I hadn't seen a 1200 before this, so I opened it up=2E  (Amigas have pers=
onalities y'know, and I always open the computer to kinda 'get to know it'=
=2E=2E=2E)

true enough =2E=2E=2E

> I have some questions about it that I would like to ask you more knowledg=
eable ppl:
>     Port on LHS of 1200 - PCMCIA?

Yes=2E

>     The 22-pin array by the expansion port that looks like it should have=
 been 40-pin - Clock port?

Yes

>     The rev=2E is 1d4 - what does this mean in terms of those problems th=
at Eyetech etc=2E will fix for U?

There might be timing faults that'll affect the clock port when used in
conjunction with faster CPU cards, I'm not sur ewhat other problems there
may be=2E  Of course, the m/b might have already been fixed =2E=2E=2E

>     On the 3=2E0 ROMS, pins 3->9 (from top left) of both chips have been =
wired together=2E  Why?  Is this supposed to be done?

Dunno about that - maybe it's an early m/b revision and it's there to fix a
problem?

>     What can ppl tell me about the Blizzard 1230 card, i=2Ee=2E max=2E RA=
M, what type, SCSI or not (there is a 50-pin array in one of the corners=2E=
=2E=2E), what has been left out with the MC68030RC, does it have an MMU (it=
 has an FPU)=2E=2E=2E

That all depends on if it is a Mark I, Mark II, Mark III or Mark IV board
=2E=2E=2E Have you actually tried running ShowConfig cos that'll tell you a=
bout
the MMU=2E  Look on aminet for details about RAM and stuff (in text/review =
?)
or maybe check out the BBOAHW=2E  Oh and the 50 pins sounds like a SCSI
interface to me =2E=2E=2E

>     What is this external floppy drive (see above)?

It is a HD floppy drive - you can read and (with a suitable patch running)
write to HD disks, including PC 1=2E44Mb disks with CrossDOS =2E=2E=2E=2E

> Thnx in advance to anyone who can help me out=2E  I'll probably have some=
 more questions soon!
> Matt W - looking fwd to half term with his 'new' Amiga=2E=2E=2E

Enjoy!

Kev

--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:55:29 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Erol,

> A3000  16/50     6MB ram  (1 w/Doubletalk)
> A3000  25/100 10MB ram
> A3000  16/50   14MB ram (040 Accel., Picasso II, Doubletalk)
> A3000  25/50   18MB ram  (VLAB)

The third is a 16Mhz 68030 with 16MHz 68881 FPU, but has an 040 and a
gfx. card; so it's the best IMO.

> Also is =A3800 pounds a good price for the A3000T with 486 Bridge card
> and sound card. Comes with normal accesories plus WB 3.5 installed.

Sort of, I would only pay about =A3550 for it since it has no gfx. card;
only ECS. :)  The 80486 birdgeboard sounds very good though... :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 09:52:43 +0000
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:46:37 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Welcome Tony, and no (not that I'd say if it *were* the correct answer).

Ben, are you perchance getting a kick out of seeing everyone take guesses
at what is on the CD?   ;-)

Kev, with his money firmly on DrawStudio and ImageStudio


--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:53:33 +0000
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Hi Nick,

> So do I, eh! :))  Why can't i have anything free? :)  Do you reckon I
> could ask them for an A4000T and get it free? :)

You probably would! However, it would be in unserviceable bits since that's
all Amiga have these days...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Amiga - different because it's better.




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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 09:55:01 +0000
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:53:33 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> > So do I, eh! :))  Why can't i have anything free? :)  Do you reckon I
> > could ask them for an A4000T and get it free? :)
>
> You probably would! However, it would be in unserviceable bits since that's
> all Amiga have these days...

Is it possible you can get a list of these bits and we can help them clear
out their cupboards?   ;-)

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



------------------------------ message 47601 ------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:58:07 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Ben,

> > So do I, eh! :))  Why can't i have anything free? :)  Do you reckon
I
> > could ask them for an A4000T and get it free? :)
>
> You probably would! However, it would be in unserviceable bits since
that's
> all Amiga have these days...

/me sends an e-mail to Amiga... :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: [e-mail]
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:58:17 +0000 (GMT)
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 Hello people, I was pleasantly surprised to see my little
game "WBPerplexity" on the cover disk of Amiga Format this month,
however inside the magazine it says something like the 15 puzzle (4x4)
can't be solved. Well this is half-true, and so here is an extract
taken from the Britannica encyclopaedia about this

 "The Fifteen Puzzle was invented by Sam Loyd the elder about 1878 and
is also known as the Boss Puzzle, Jeu de Taquin, and Diablotin. It
became popular all over Europe almost at once. It consists essentially
of a shallow square tray that holds 15 small square counters numbered
from 1 to 15, and one square blank space. With the 15 squares initially
placed in random order and with the blank space in the lower right-hand
corner, the puzzle is to rearrange them in numerical order by sliding
only, with the blank space ending up back in the lower right-hand
corner. It may overwhelm the reader to learn that there are more than
20,000,000,000,000 possible different arrangements that the pieces
(including the blank space) can assume. But in 1879 two American
mathematicians proved that only one-half of all possible initial
arrangements, or about 10,000,000,000,000, admitted of a solution. The
mathematical analysis is as follows. Basically, no matter what path it
takes, as long as it ends its journey in the lower right-hand corner of
the tray, any numeral must pass through an even number of boxes. In the
normal position of the squares, regarded row by row from left to right,
each number is larger than all the preceding numbers; i.e., no number
precedes any number smaller than itself. In any other than the normal
arrangement, one or more numbers will precede others smaller than
themselves. Every such instance is called an inversion. For example, in
the sequence 9, 5, 3, 4, the 9 precedes three numbers smaller than
itself and the 5 precedes two numbers smaller than itself, making a
total of five inversions. If the total number of all the inversions in
a given arrangement is even, the puzzle can be solved by bringing the
squares back to the normal arrangement; if the total number of
inversions is odd, the puzzle cannot be solved."

 Fortunately, I'm currently working on an update for WBPerplexity,
which will allow you to stop the above "impossibilities" from
occurring. Instead Randomising tile placement, the next version will
take a completed puzzle and jumble it instead, making it entirely
possible for it to be solved.

 Additional puzzle sets for WBPerplexity will soon be available from my
site at: http://www.enginenine.cjb.net

Regards,
Matt Briggs
[e-mail]




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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:59:28 -0800
From: "Erol Ismael" <[e-mail]>
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Ben can you help?

"erol ismael" <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D47581
> A3000  16/50     6MB ram  (1 w/Doubletalk)
> A3000  25/100 10MB ram
> A3000  16/50   14MB ram (040 Accel., Picasso II, Doubletalk)
> A3000  25/50   18MB ram  (VLAB)
>
> Also is =A3800 pounds a good price for the A3000T with 486 Bridge card
> and sound card. Comes with normal accesories plus WB 3.5 installed.
>
>
> Please can anyone help?
>
>
> Erol
>



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:59:01 +0000
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Hi Tim,

>>> <thunderbirds> Too...many...exclamation...marks.... can't....
>>> concentrate....</thuderbirds> :)

>> I know, there are in that first para, but I wanted to get across to
>> folk that they *shouldn't* delete the message...

> Don't some mail clients count excessive exlamation marks, and use that
> as one of the criteria for declaring a message to be junk mail?  ;-)

Perhaps you need to read one of the later points Tim, which is to check to
see if the thread has already been responded to enough that it needs no
further posts...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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"*I* manufacture those worktops", said Tom counterproductively.




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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:00:11 +0000
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Hi Kevin,

> Ben, are you perchance getting a kick out of seeing everyone take guesses
> at what is on the CD?   ;-)

> Kev, with his money firmly on DrawStudio and ImageStudio

No, I'm not. I've said on numerous occasions that people should shut up
about it, but it seems that most of the people who post on here are
selectively deaf (well, selectively can't read).

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A good death: Taking a bullet for the Science Nun




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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:02:02 +0000
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Hi Kevin,

>> You probably would! However, it would be in unserviceable bits since
>> that's all Amiga have these days...

> Is it possible you can get a list of these bits and we can help them cl=
ear
> out their cupboards?   ;-)

Sure. Here you go:

=B7 Broken (snapped in two, in some cases) motherboards
=B7 SMD motherboards with only three or four of the necessary chips on
=B7 motherboards that don't have proper tracks
=B7 keyboards that have been stamped on
=B7 cases with the back completely buckled
=B7 miscellaneous broken items

(pure conjecture, but fairly accurate, I fancy)

All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Try this: http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html




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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 02:10:00 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

There's a Amiga quiz, you can get to it via http://www.amiga.org.

Quite good actually, I got 26/30, not the highest on the high score
list (a certain fellow Devonian called Tom Underwood got 30! :).  A
little bit of light entertainment.  Mind you I'm meant to be
researching stuff for English lang. at the moment; instead i did the
Amiga quiz... :)

I got the one about which version of Amiga Workbench was released last
wrong and, the unbuffered dos.library command (cannot recall of the top
of my head!) and another two... :)

Aaaaaanyway - back to Eng. Lang. for the time being... :)

All the best,

Nick.



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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 02:14:16 -0800
From: "Erol Ismael" <[e-mail]>
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It has a picasso II card as well, any good for =A3800 price tag?

"nick lamburn" <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D47597
> Hi Erol,
>
> > A3000  16/50     6MB ram  (1 w/Doubletalk)
> > A3000  25/100 10MB ram
> > A3000  16/50   14MB ram (040 Accel., Picasso II, Doubletalk)
> > A3000  25/50   18MB ram  (VLAB)
>
> The third is a 16Mhz 68030 with 16MHz 68881 FPU, but has an 040 and a
> gfx. card; so it's the best IMO.
>
> > Also is =A3800 pounds a good price for the A3000T with 486 Bridge card
> > and sound card. Comes with normal accesories plus WB 3.5 installed.
>
> Sort of, I would only pay about =A3550 for it since it has no gfx. card;
> only ECS. :)  The 80486 birdgeboard sounds very good though... :)
>
> All the best,
>
> Nick.
>



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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 02:14:55 -0800
From: "Eric Oddy" <[e-mail]>
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<html>Greetings,

I live in Germany and suscribe to AF. I have also subscribed to afb in
order to
gain more knowledge of the Amiga. Unfortunately I cannot find my name
among the members list. WHY ? Do you not want me ?

Thanks for your time.</html>



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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 02:23:00 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Erol,

It sounds a very nice machine; if you have =A3800, snap it up NOW! :)
The A3000T is a lovely lovely Amiga; I used one once, and I really wish
I could afford one... :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:24:33 +0000
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Hi Erol,

> It has a picasso II card as well, any good for =A3800 price tag?

I've told you before Erol. Please quote just the same as every other afb'=
er
on this list, or I'll ban you! As for that price. No, it's way too high. =
I
wouldn't pay any more than =A3200 for an A3000T unless it had an 060
accelerator in it, along with that other stuff.

All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:25:19 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88ghmv$[e-mail]>
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Hi Eric,

> I live in Germany and suscribe to AF. I have also subscribed to afb in
> order to
> gain more knowledge of the Amiga. Unfortunately I cannot find my name
> among the members list. WHY ? Do you not want me ?

We don't if you insist on using html in your mails. The member list only
gets updated every other day or so.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 02:36:32 -0800
From: "Erol Ismael" <[e-mail]>
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"ben vost" <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D47611

>I've told you before Erol. Please quote just the same as every other
afb'er
>on this list, or I'll ban you!

I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, is it that I'm copying the
complete message in with a responce or do you only want part of the
question with the reply's in?

Also is there a afb guide for when new users join?

>As for that price. No, it's way too high. I wouldn't pay any more than
=A3200 >for an A3000T unless it had an 060 accelerator in it, along with
that other >stuff.
Thanks for the advice.

E



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Date: 17 Feb 2000 9:36:48 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Gerald Mellor said,

> On 16 Feb 00, at 14:03, Neil Bothwick wrote:

>> Each Bhudda card has 3 IDE interfaces, 6 devices. So you could run a
>> total of 44 devices, which would at least keep you warm.

> You'd need a bloody big tower case, though.

Cases are for wimps.


Neil
--
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
Borg Mail Reader v2.1a  Taglines are irrelevent.



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Date: 17 Feb 2000 9:43:34 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <88fnge$[e-mail]>
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Peter Lewis said,

> I have an Oktagon 2008 SCSI2 Zorro2 board on my Amiga which I use soley
> for the purpose of my 8x SCSI2 Plextor CDRW (Had to say it!...:o)

> y'see, I have a Powerflyer, and a shite processor ('o3o), now my
> UDMA/66 HD's can pull 7Mb/sec Raw, so I don't think these are the
> reasons why I am getting a buffer underrun at 2x write!

You need to give more information on what you're doing when the underrun
occurs?

Which software are you using?
Are you trying to burn on the fly, or from an image file?
Is the source on SCSI or IDE?
At what point does the underrun occurs? Is this consistent?
Does changing the buffer size make any difference?


Neil
--
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
Windows - so intuitive you only need a meg of help files!



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Date: 17 Feb 2000 9:44:57 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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William said,

> Hi Neil

>>> Has anybody got a newicon for Aweb 3.2 , i have looked on Aminet but
>>> most of them are Aweb directory icons

>> Yes, but it would be ingenuous of me to tell you where to find it :)

> I will give you my mouse ball for the newicon :>

4.99 will do, but I'm *really* pushing my luck now :)


Neil
--
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
MASOCHIST: Windows SDK programmer with a smile!



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Date: 17 Feb 2000 9:49:1 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <88fc67$[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: Pirated OS3.5
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Maarten Draijer said,

> Here's the guy's email-address.
> [e-mail]

Are you sure? Could it bew fake, or someone else's?

> If anyone outhere knows a way of mailbombing him, pleez let me know.

Mailbombing breaks most ISPs' terms and could result in your account
being closed.

Mailbombing is extremely easy to do, I once knocked up a very short
ARexx script to show just how easy it really is. Short of sending
obscene mail to the MD's wife, it's probably the easiest way of getting
your ISP account closed.


Neil
--
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
Quantum Physics: The dreams that stuff is made of



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From: "Matthew O'Neill" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:52:47 GMT
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Subject: [afb] Re: where ya java* gone..... wheres ya java*gone!? (*script)
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>>Dunno if the last mail got through, but is there any chance of >>having
>>this
>>month's missing js drawer on the next CD?

>It's there.

As in I didn`t notice because I`m blind or as in it'll be on the next CD?
______________________________________________________


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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 03:01:29 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Czech Amiga News
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Hi,

Is it just me; or is Czech Amiga News down?  I keep on getting
time-outs!
http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga

All the best,

Nick.



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From: John Bragg <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:14:00 -0000
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Hi Nick,

I've not had any problems with it today.

Regards,

John F Bragg
Multimedia Production Assistant
Multimedia Centre
Darlington College of Technology



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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:29:17 +0100
From: Tudor Davies <[e-mail]>
References: <88gke9$[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <88gke9$[e-mail]>
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On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 03:01:29AM -0800, Nick Lamburn wrote:

> Is it just me; or is Czech Amiga News down?  I keep on getting
> time-outs!
> http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga

Are you sure that it is the CAN that is having the problem. I keep getting
problems with one of their link ads timing out and that stops the page
from loading.

just a thought

l8r
--

Tudor Davies                         Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices
                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
Team Member of AmiBench
Web: http://www.AmiBench.org         Specialist in Internet Security & ISP
Email: [e-mail]               Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing)
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 03:31:54 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <000801bf792b$4dfdda60$ea015cc3@ThisComputer>
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Hi Matthew,

> Hi fellow Amiga owning ppl,
>
> A couple of weeks ago I posted some questions about a bargain 1200 I
was going to buy.  Well a couple of days ago that bargain arrived.
(=A360+=A310 p&p for an A1200, Blizzard 1230 030/50MHz accelerator card
with 8Mb, 170Mb HDD, Multisync monitor, external 1.76Mb XL floppy drive
(whatever this is - HD floppy drive even?), several leads, joysticks,
mice etc. and a sh*tload of floppy disks in disk boxes!)

Wow! :)  Wish when I got my A1200 in 1996 I got that for my money! :)
I paid =A3165 for a vanilla 1200, no hard disk, 1 floppy drive, a few
games as well...

> I hadn't seen a 1200 before this, so I opened it up.  (Amigas have
personalities y'know, and I always open the computer to kinda 'get to
know it'...)
>
> I have some questions about it that I would like to ask you more
knowledgeable ppl:
>     Port on LHS of 1200 - PCMCIA?

Yes, PCMCIA rev. 2.0

>     The 22-pin array by the expansion port that looks like it should
have been 40-pin - Clock port?

The LHS of the clock port is for another meg of chip RAM on prototype
1meg A1200 machines.  The RHS (22pins) are the useful ones for IO
/Sound Cards etc.

>     The rev. is 1d4 - what does this mean in terms of those problems
that Eyetech etc. will fix for U?

Some 1d4 will be fine; most start to give you problems when you add
anything faster than a 68040/060/PPC.

>     On the 3.0 ROMS, pins 3->9 (from top left) of both chips have
been wired together.  Why?  Is this supposed to be done?

I wouldn't know, because my 1B A1200 (c. 1992) has 3.0 ROMs an there is
no wire.  Some A500s need pin 1 connected to pin 31, but afaik, what
the wire on 1200 is there for, i don`t know! :)  If it works (the
Amiga); then leave it! :)

>     What can ppl tell me about the Blizzard 1230 card, i.e. max. RAM,
what type, SCSI or not (there is a 50-pin array in one of the
corners...), what has been left out with the MC68030RC, does it have an
MMU (it has an FPU)...

The MC68030RC has a data and instruction cache 256Bytes big each iirc.
It's a nippy processor running at around 10MIPS.  It has an MMU built
in unlike the 68851 the 68020 needed.  The FPU is external and is a
68882 PGA unit at 50MHz as well.  Your 68030 is running at 50MHz.  You
can add 128Mb to a Blizzard 1230IV (the 4th revision) on the main board
and a further 64Mb on the SCSI card iirc.

>     What is this external floppy drive (see above)?

It's a high density floppy drive; you lucky devil! :)  This means if
you indulge in Mac or PC emulation you can access high density disks
which is necesary.  Also you can use High Density Amiga disks.  keep
hold of this baby, these are very sought after; and when Tudor Davie's
ankle is better, I'll be getting one too... :)

> Thnx in advance to anyone who can help me out.  I'll probably have
some more questions soon!
> Matt W - looking fwd to half term with his 'new' Amiga...

Enjoy it; you'll love the Amiga; and some bargain for =A360! :)

All the best,

Nick.




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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 03:35:35 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Kevin,

> That all depends on if it is a Mark I, Mark II, Mark III or Mark IV
board
> ... Have you actually tried running ShowConfig cos that'll tell you
about
> the MMU.  Look on aminet for details about RAM and stuff (in
text/review ?)
> or maybe check out the BBOAHW.  Oh and the 50 pins sounds like a SCSI
> interface to me ...

The MC/XC68030RC is either a 40MHz or 50MHZ PGA chip.  A RC 68030 has
all caches and an MMU.  The 680EC30 (in 16-40MHz only) has no MMU.

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 11:30:10 +0000
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:00:11 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Kevin,

'lo

> > Ben, are you perchance getting a kick out of seeing everyone take guesses
> > at what is on the CD?   ;-)
>
> > Kev, with his money firmly on DrawStudio and ImageStudio
>
> No, I'm not. I've said on numerous occasions that people should shut up
> about it, but it seems that most of the people who post on here are
> selectively deaf (well, selectively can't read).

Oh I saw that bit, but my post wasn't a further one about the contents, but
instead was a question/comment with a mention of my thoughts.

While we are on about CD contents, how much of a lead time do you tend to
need on reader requests?  And who has to ask for a web site to be included
- readers or the web site owner?  It's just that given a couple of people
on here have mentioned Oktagon cards, and I'm sure a few people have
problems with OS3.5 and older versions IDEFix, having the files from
http://www.elaborate-bytes.com would help solve many problems ...


Kev


--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 11:32:19 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: I love AMIGA Inc. (A4000T rails and workbench.library)
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:02:02 +0000, Ben Vost (ben=2Evost@futurenet=2Eco=2Eu=
k) wrote:
> Hi Kevin,

'lo

> > Is it possible you can get a list of these bits and we can help them cl=
ear
> > out their cupboards?   ;-)
>=20
> Sure=2E Here you go:
>=20
> =B7 Broken (snapped in two, in some cases) motherboards

Anyone got any selotape?

> =B7 SMD motherboards with only three or four of the necessary chips on

and a soldering iron =2E=2E=2E=2E

> =B7 motherboards that don't have proper tracks

a silver pen?

> =B7 keyboards that have been stamped on

glue?

> =B7 cases with the back completely buckled

I've already got a case =2E=2E=2E

> =B7 miscellaneous broken items

a magic wand?

> (pure conjecture, but fairly accurate, I fancy)

Oh well=2E  Still, there's no harm in asking, huh?

Kev

--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:39:35 +0000
References: <[e-mail]>
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On 15 Feb 00, at 12:46, Tim Seifert wrote:

>> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "anything travelling at the
>> speed of light slows down", though.
>
> But that's been the central point of everyone who believes in the
> limiting factor, that as you approach that speed, time slows down.

Okay, that's true. It has been proven by experiment. There are really
only two options, either the speed of light is constant, or time is
constant. Time isn't, people just assume it's common sense to think
time is constant, because we move at non-relativistic speeds. But it
doesn't take much of a leap of understanding to realise that time is
just another dimension of our universe.

Bauglir - apologising to everyone else, and leaving this thread alone
now :)


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:38:43 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hi Kevin,

> While we are on about CD contents, how much of a lead time do you tend to
> need on reader requests?  And who has to ask for a web site to be included
> - readers or the web site owner?  It's just that given a couple of people
> on here have mentioned Oktagon cards, and I'm sure a few people have
> problems with OS3.5 and older versions IDEFix, having the files from
> http://www.elaborate-bytes.com would help solve many problems ...

Websites are never "leached" from the net, unlike some other CDs in the
past... :) so the best thing to do, if you want Elaborate Bytes websites on
our CD, is to contact Olive Kastl and ask him to put it on there...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:40:11 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
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Hi Matthew,


>>> Dunno if the last mail got through, but is there any chance of >>having
>>> this
>>> month's missing js drawer on the next CD?

>> It's there.

> As in I didn`t notice because I`m blind or as in it'll be on the next CD?

As in it's on AFCD51.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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*http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/*




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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 03:46:50 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <88ghdo$[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga Quiz
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Hi Nick,

> There's a Amiga quiz, you can get to it via http://www.amiga.org.
>
> Quite good actually, I got 26/30, not the highest on the high score
> list (a certain fellow Devonian called Tom Underwood got 30! :).  A
> little bit of light entertainment.  Mind you I'm meant to be
> researching stuff for English lang. at the moment; instead i did the
> Amiga quiz... :)

22/30. I feel that it is a quiz more suited to programmers. How the
hell am I supposed to know what functions are in what libraries? I did
better on the history bits though.

> I got the one about which version of Amiga Workbench was released last
> wrong and, the unbuffered dos.library command (cannot recall of the
top
> of my head!) and another two... :)

Me thinks that it wasn't written my someone whos native language is
english. Last version of WB (on the quiz) is surely 3.0!?!

Paul Laycock




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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:47:34 +0000
References: <[e-mail]>
In-reply-to: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement...
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On 15 Feb 00, at 13:36, Tim Seifert wrote:

> Really, just how ESSENTIAL is MUI to making a graphical user interface?

It's not essential, it just makes it easier for the programmer. With the
added advantage of a better looking, "standard" interface. I say
standard because it's become the standard for so many pieces of
useful software, software that I couldn't, or at least wouldn't want to,
live without.

> If AWeb can make a browser that uses a GUI we don't have to pay for,
> then it can be done.

But you have to take into consideration the fact that AWeb is butt-
ugly...

> Prettiness of MUI aside, I just don't beleive that MUI is the only way
> they could have been programmed.  After all, the rest of the programming
> has got to be far more complicated than just getting the GUI looking
> nice.

Some people may be good at programming, but have no real skills in
writing an user friendly, attractive GUI. These are entirely different
sets of skills. MUI makes it easier for programmers who might
otherwise release a command line only program, which may not put
you off, but it would alienate a lot of users.

Bauglir


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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 11:48:08 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: CD contents
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:38:43 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Kevin,

Hello,

> Websites are never "leached" from the net, unlike some other CDs in the
> past... :) so the best thing to do, if you want Elaborate Bytes websites on
> our CD, is to contact Olive Kastl and ask him to put it on there...

Well the thing was, I'm not that bothered about having it on there myself,
but I thought it might be useful for others to have the latest versions of
the archives from the site on the CD, such as the latest (and last IIRC)
OktaPussy and the OS3.5-aware IDEFix archives ...

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: William <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:48:56 +0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] [Automatic Reply] Pirate Ftp Site (fwd)
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Hi all this is a first reply i got, i have blanked out the password. =


This person has 2 gigs of Pirate amiga software on his FTP site and even
his own WWW site brags about his FTP site =


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From: William <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:31:45 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: AFB addiction
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Hi Gerald =


You wrote about [afb] Re: AFB addiction on 17-Feb-00, =

> =

>> AFB is not that addictive but its nice for all C A Users to have a
>> chat and a laugh & joke, and get reply~s from the guys behind UK~s
>> best mag pc format lol just kidding Amiga Format :) .
> =

> What's this *C* A? Amigas haven't been "C" Amigas for the past 7 =

> years or so :)

I've had a C A1200 since they first came out and it still works perfectly=
 :)

I think most Amiga users are still using a C Amiga but correct me if i am=
 wrong  =


William =


C A User











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From: William <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:37:33 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: Hello everyone.
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Hi Tony

You wrote about [afb] Hello everyone. on 17-Feb-00,

> Hi one and all,
> I'm new to the group & a complete newbie |-O.

Welcome Amigan


William

C A User











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From: William <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:49:51 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Theme of Amiga
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Hi Sandy

You wrote about [afb] Theme of Amiga on 16-Feb-00,


>
> When I ordered WipEout, I also got the "Theme of Amiga: Back for the
> Future" CD.
>
> Not bad!

nice one and what was on Theme of Amiga: Back for the Future ?

William

C A User











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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:51:21 +0000
References: <[e-mail]>
In-reply-to: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
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On 15 Feb 00, at 14:14, Tim Seifert wrote:

> Either term can be applied to the usual kind of addresses you'll see,
> though I use the term URI, because I tend to follow standards and
> conventions properly, rather than ad hoc.  It's just the engineer in me.

You have an engineer in you? That would explain your disregard for
the accepted view of physics ;)

Bauglir
"To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is
half-empty.  To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to
be."


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From: "Chris Green" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:53:51 -0000
In-Reply-To: <88gdst$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: which one is the best?
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Hi Erol

> A3000  16/50   14MB ram (040 Accel., Picasso II, Doubletalk)

IMO this is the best spec out of the four you posted.

> Also is 800 pounds a good price for the A3000T with 486 Bridge card
> and sound card. Comes with normal accesories plus WB 3.5 installed.

No that is a terrible price if that is all it has in it. As gorgeous as an
A3000T is (and Christ knows I'd kill for one) it would have to be packed to
the rafters with gear (060 card, buckets of Ram, CD drives, HDs etc).

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
..................................................................
Fax: [phone]      Email: [e-mail]
ICQ: 10921400                 URL:   http://computing.vnunet.com
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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:55:52 +0000
References: <[e-mail]>
In-reply-to: <[e-mail]>
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On 15 Feb 00, at 18:01, Tim Seifert wrote:

>> Why should they continue developing/writing stuff, "for the sake of
>> it" ?
>
> That's their choice, if they want to be capitalists.

That's the way the world works, I'm afraid. You're not a social
security fund, and neither are they. Software developers deserve to
be paid for their work the same as everyone else. Of course they
shouldn't expect people to pay for their products if they don't think
they're worth it. But similarly, if you don't think a program's worth
paying for, you shouldn't be using it in the first place.

Bauglir


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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 03:57:58 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <88gn3a$[e-mail]>
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Hi Paul,

> 22/30. I feel that it is a quiz more suited to programmers. How the
> hell am I supposed to know what functions are in what libraries? I did
> better on the history bits though.

True. :)  But I'm a programmer; so I use this stuff all the time :)

> > I got the one about which version of Amiga Workbench was released
last
> > wrong and, the unbuffered dos.library command (cannot recall of the
> top
> > of my head!) and another two... :)
>
> Me thinks that it wasn't written my someone whos native language is
> english. Last version of WB (on the quiz) is surely 3.0!?!

That's what I thought, but 3.0 was ready in August 1992 for the A4000;
2.1 was launched in October 1992 iirc.

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Gerald Mellor" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:01:48 +0000
In-reply-to: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
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On 17 Feb 00, at 11:37, William wrote:

>> Hi one and all,
>> I'm new to the group & a complete newbie |-O.
>
> Welcome Amigan

Ben, can we have a week ban placed on anyone deliberately and
maliciously using this term? ;)

Thanks,
Bauglir


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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:53:10 +0000 (GMT)
From: Stephen Marriott <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Analogic Acquires Squirrels
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We are pleased to announce that the rights to manufacture and sell the
Surf Squirrel, Classic Squirrel and Whippet products have been sold to
Analogic Computers:

http://www.analogic.co.uk/

This means that all marketing, sales and support is now handled by
Analogic.

Squirrel files will still be available from the HiSOFT ftp server -
ftp.hisoft.co.uk - but without any support from HiSOFT.


Analogic contact details:

Analogic Computers (U.K.) Ltd
Units 6 & 8, Ashway Centre,
Elm Crescent,
Kingston-upon-Thames,
Surrey KT2 6HH.
U.K.
Telephone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]


Please note that the Squirrel names are still owned by HiSOFT. Analogic
has the right to use the names, to manufacture the products and to sell
worldwide.

We are sure that the Squirrel has found a home where it will be cared for
and this will ensure it a long and happy life :-) Good luck and best
wishes to all at Analogic.

--
Stephen Marriott - [e-mail]
HiSOFT, The Old School, Greenfield, Bedford, MK45 5DE, UK
Tel: [phone] Fax: [phone] Freecall: 0500 223 660
http://www.hisoft.co.uk/ PGP public key on request.ICQ#:29793027
http://aist.co.uk/ http://cinema4d.co.uk/ http://speedyshop.com/



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From: Vincenzo Morra <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:14:23 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hello Ben

On 16-Feb-00, Ben Vost wrote:

> Hi Grzegorz,

> Welcome, and don't worry about your english - it's better than some of the
> other english on here, and that's from people from the UK!

Ben.. don't put yourself down!!  ;PPPP
;)

Bye
--
Vincenzo Morra
[e-mail]
www.morres.demon.co.uk
ICQ: 18467837



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From: Vincenzo Morra <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:14:49 +0100
In-Reply-To: <88e0cv$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Pirated OS3.5
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Hello Mad

On 16-Feb-00, Mad Matt wrote:

> I think I`ve just come across a pireted version of OS3.5.
>
> Take a look at this UAE site: www.amiga.2y.net/uae.html.

Send the URL to Haage and P.

Contact the Internet provider.

Bye
--
Vincenzo Morra
[e-mail]
www.morres.demon.co.uk
ICQ: 18467837



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From: Mark Wilson <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:18:40 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Vaporware (was re: PIRACY-SUCKS)
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On 15-Feb-00, Tim wrote this:

> As it stands, for me, Voyager is the least stable, every version of
> Voyager that I've tried crashes very quickly, or doesn't even start up.
> Likewise with other of the Vapor software.

Hmm, Well I use Voyager *all* the time, and I get a crash about once in 30
times (which I think is ok cosidering), I also registered IB2, and It
crashes here, and invalidates, virtually _every_ single time I use it (so I
tend not to)

>> Well, You can buy online, you can use the Vaporware Reg tool, or
>> online via Actives website, I really dont see what the problem is, can
>> you Do better?, No I thought not, now go reg that software.

> Well, lets see, over an hour to get through their website to order
> on-line, and that was after several weeks of trying.  I just didn't have
> the patience leaving a browser on one site for that long.  And then,
> what if you don't have credit cards, or no internet access?  And going
> to a library, or other public access provider, doesn't always work, as
> you need an ISP (not Hotmail) based e-mail address to register some
> things.

Well, hmm, it only took 10 minutes for my AmiRC and V3 keys to come, and I
registered from a public library in leicester. I dont see how it could even
take an hour to click on the 'registeration' button thats on vapor.com, or
you could of used the big massive "now avialibe with secure online ordering
button from securapay " (https://secure.active-net.co.uk/vapor/regform.php3)

> And then, on top of that, various software that you register this way,
> still has a massive delay before it actually gets registered.  In this
> day and age, fully automatic credit card billing and keyfile generation,
> ought to go hand in hand.

It does, it took me ten minutes, and I'm telling you the truth.

> Disregarding any trouble with registering, I wouldn't buy Voyager in a
> fit.  Quite apart from it's bugginess, it's still backward in an only
> partial support of common HTML codes.

Yep, just like IB2.1/2

<FLAME>>:)</FLAME>
--
Mark 'tecno' Wilson

Team Member of AmiBench
Web: http://www.AmiBench.org
Email: [e-mail]



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From: Errol <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:25:16 +0100
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Your website on Amiga Format CD52
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Hi Guys,

If you would like to have your website included (or updated) on Amiga
Format magazine's CD #51, (issue 136, May 2000), could you please
upload your archived website site to:

             ftp2.futurenet.co.uk/pub/incoming

The ABSOLUTE deadline is *Thursday 2nd March* but, we would appreciate
it if you could upload your site sooner. Any websites arriving after the
deadline will not be updated. Please prefix your archive with "AF_"
for example: AF_MyWWWSite.lha.

**************************************************************************

                            Important Notes:

1. We have now re-designed the layout of the "Essential Websites" page on
   the Amiga Format CD and it now includes a hyperlink to your wesite on
   the net allowing Amiga users who have access to the internet to visit
   your wesite directly. We now also require the complete URL to your
   website and this should be contained in a text file called "URL.txt"
   within your archive.

2. Due to space restrictions, websites are now updated on *every CD* basis
   so, if you don't update your website you'll probably find your website
   won't be included on the Amiga Format CD!

3. We make every possible effort to include your website on the Amiga
   Format CD-ROM. However, due to space restrictions, we are sometimes
   forced to make space for alternative data. For this reason we are
   unable to offer any firm guarantees that your website will be included.

4. Some of you have been sending your updated websites to the Future server
   several times over the course of a particular month. In the future could
   you please refrain from doing this. One update per month is fine! ;-)

5. If you have any problems uploading your files to the Future server,
   please email: [e-mail] to let them know!

**************************************************************************



If your company has any demo programs (utilities or games) that you would
also like to have included on the CD, please email me as soon as possible
with details and approximate byte sizes.


--
best regards,


Errol
E.M.Computergraphic
 Developing award-winning CD-ROMS for the Amiga & PC
     CD-ROM compilers for Amiga Format magazine
Suppliers of high quality compatible Inkjet Cartridges

8 Edith Road, Clacton, Essex. CO15 1JU  United Kingdom
Tel: [phone]        Fax: [phone]
       ---- http://www.emcomp.demon.co.uk ----



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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 04:45:04 -0800
From: "Matthew J Fletcher" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Pirated OS3.5
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[e-mail] (sean ft) wrote:
> >> Take a look at this UAE site: www.amiga.2y.net/uae.html.
> >
> >> It is stored in a ADF hardfile.
> >
> >> Im not sure what I can really do about stopping the piracy of this
> >> software but those of you in the know might be able to. The piracy
of
> >> 1.3-OS3.1 can not be stopped as it is spread far and wide but the
> >> piracy of OS3.5 must stop and not be allowed to spread.

This might ruffle some feathers but is copying OS1.3 hardcore piracy ?,
well proably not. OS3.5 is of course TOTALY diffrent. Having said that
i just grabed North&South from the site, which i will play later for
the first time in 5 years.

-matthew



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Date: 17 Feb 2000 10:58:59 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: '' Zippity do da, Zippity Day
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Tim Seifert said,

>  By:  Neil Bothwick <[e-mail]>

>> But if the second disk does have an RDB (a different one) it will be
>> mounted as a different device, with a different name. If the names
>> clash, a number is appended to the second one.

> You'd think that'd help, but it doesn't on my DKB Cobra accellerator and
> Ferret SCSI host combination.  It sometimes does the Zip.2: routine,
> sometimes doesn't.

It sounds like the is the fault of your SCSI controller, since it works
fine with other controllers.

> But even if it does, the Zip: is still accessible,
> when it shouldn't be.  And behaves in a dangerous manner.

I get the "No disk present in device ZIP:" type message, exactly as I
should. ZIP: and ZIP.0: are treated as if they were separate physical
devices, like DF0: and DF1:.


Neil
--
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
Sir! Romulan warbird decloaki NO CARRIER



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Date: 17 Feb 2000 11:1:31 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Aweb Newicon
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Kevin Fairhurst said,

> On 17 Feb 2000 1:4:12 +0000, Neil Bothwick ([e-mail]) wrote:

>> > Has anybody got a newicon for Aweb 3.2 , i have looked on Aminet but
>> > most of them are Aweb directory icons
>>
>> Yes, but it would be ingenuous of me to tell you where to find it :)

> You're not implying that he look into the drawers, are you?   ;-)

No, I'm referring to a comment Ben made about a previous thread, some
months ago. I refrained from contributing because I thought it was rude
(or at least impolite) but I thought Ben's description of "ingenuous"
was so much better.


Neil
--
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
Stop the turbolift! Worf's carsick again...



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:46:48 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Aweb Newicon
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Hi Neil,

> No, I'm referring to a comment Ben made about a previous thread, some
> months ago. I refrained from contributing because I thought it was rude
> (or at least impolite) but I thought Ben's description of "ingenuous"
> was so much better.

Didn't I say *dis*ingenuous? Is it even possible to be ingenuous, whelmed or
gruntled?

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:51:49 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Wordsmithing (Was: " Aweb Newicon")
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 17 February 2000 12:47
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: Aweb Newicon
>
> > No, I'm referring to a comment Ben made about a previous
> thread, some
> > months ago. I refrained from contributing because I thought
> it was rude
> > (or at least impolite) but I thought Ben's description of
> "ingenuous"
> > was so much better.
>
> Didn't I say *dis*ingenuous? Is it even possible to be
> ingenuous, whelmed or
> gruntled?

I believe it is, although strangely enough to be "Gruntled" is the same as
being "Disgruntled"...

Whelmed, however is a different matter. You can be Overwhelmed (Original
source of the word), but not Underwhelmed, or even Whelmed... :/
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
Beware the Jabberwock, my son...


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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:54:00 +0000
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>; from Tim Seifert on Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:57:15PM +0900
From: Matthew Garrett <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
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On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:57:15PM +0900, Tim Seifert wrote:

> We are now travelling away from each other, at almost twice the speed of
> light, relative to each other, (remember, we're both doing 1 under the
> limit here), and neither of us slowed down to avoid the other person.

No you aren't. You're travelling away from each other at less than 1KM/h
under the speed of light. Relative velocities are not just the total of
individual velocities - on Earth, speeds are generally low enough that
this doesn't matter and as a result you can make approximations. That
doesn't mean they're true on the relativistic scale.

--
Matthew Garrett | [e-mail]


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:53:47 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFCCE@THE_EXCHANGE>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Wordsmithing (Was: " Aweb Newicon")
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Hi Robert,

> Whelmed, however is a different matter. You can be Overwhelmed (Original
> source of the word), but not Underwhelmed, or even Whelmed... :/

Oh you can *definitely* be underwhelmed. Take it from me, I work in the
Amiga market...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:55:01 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: (OT) Astronomical figures (was Heart106.2 (Was: Exams))
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Hi Matthew,

> No you aren't. You're travelling away from each other at less than 1KM/h
> under the speed of light. Relative velocities are not just the total of
> individual velocities - on Earth, speeds are generally low enough that
> this doesn't matter and as a result you can make approximations. That
> doesn't mean they're true on the relativistic scale.

Next person to mention the speed of light on this list will be ejected for a
week. Of course, it'll probably seem longer than that, due to the
relativistic nature of it all...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:57:18 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 17 February 2000 12:54
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: Wordsmithing (Was: " Aweb Newicon")
>
> Hi Robert,

Hi, Ben,

> > Whelmed, however is a different matter. You can be
> Overwhelmed (Original
> > source of the word), but not Underwhelmed, or even Whelmed... :/
>
> Oh you can *definitely* be underwhelmed. Take it from me, I
> work in the
> Amiga market...

No, that's 'disillusioned', or even 'disappointed' or perhaps
'disgruntled'...
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
Ho hum...


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From: Mark Wilson <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:31:56 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Amibench on AFCD Roms.
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On 17-Feb-00, Errol wrote this:

> If you would like to have your website included (or updated) on Amiga
> Format magazine's CD #51, (issue 136, May 2000), could you please
> upload your archived website site to:

It is very unlikely that AmiBench will appear on Amiga Format CD Roms, not
because I dont want it to (any kind of advertising is good) but because
AmiBench is CGI-BIN driven, Sadly, There is no way to make the website work
offline easily.

Sorry Guys :\

--
Mark 'tecno' Wilson

Team Member of AmiBench
Web: http://www.AmiBench.org
Email: [e-mail]



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 13:27:49 +0000
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Subject: [afb] STRICQ goes open-source
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STRICQ in it's current form is going open-source!

Check http://stricq.owlnet.net

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: Ken Walsh <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:27:02 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: Cd-rom prob
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Hello adam

>
> People dont flame me for this , The cd is Gary Glitters - rock and roll
> which in my opinion deserves to be scratched to death

well said, thank God never bought one of his records (well one Glitter band
one but sure he had left then?)

                 Cheers all the best

                       Ken








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From: William <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:25:15 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hi Gerald

You wrote about [afb] Re: Hello everyone. on 17-Feb-00,

>> Welcome Amigan
>
> Ben, can we have a week ban placed on anyone deliberately and
> maliciously using this term? ;)

???? lol maliciously & deliberately are you for real ?

cya Amigan

William

C A User











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From: William <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:54:29 +0000
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Hi =


Just got af 134 and it looks better , at least there is no bulky cd box =


There is a review on Page 38 of Voyager 3 , IMHO Voyager is a good web
browser but very unstable for some reason. 88% is a bit high.

Pages 18-19 about the roms swap looks great apart from the empty space
in the top right hand corner which could have been used for a ad or
something. =


last point, on page 62 Mailbag there is a old photo of someone in the top=
 left corner which needs to be changed to something with an amiga made ba=
ckground.
and about the b/w cartoon on pages 62-63 ? surely the mailbag could print=
 a few more letters if this was not there  =


But as saying that the mag is still as good as it was in the early 90~s =


keep the CD Jacket :)

William =


C A User











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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:08:55 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hi William,

> Pages 18-19 about the roms swap looks great apart from the empty space
> in the top right hand corner which could have been used for a ad or
> something.

Hmm, I said I thought I needed to write a boxout there, but our art ed
convinced me otherwise. Even if he hadn't I would have been pushed to write
to fill that much space...

> last point, on page 62 Mailbag there is a old photo of someone in the top
> left corner which needs to be changed to something with an amiga made
> background. and about the b/w cartoon on pages 62-63 ? surely the mailbag
> could print a few more letters if this was not there

Not really. We don't get that many letters since the advent of email. The
issue we're working on now even had to pinch one off afb to fill some
space...

> But as saying that the mag is still as good as it was in the early 90~s

Fanks.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Only two - but it's difficult to get them in there.




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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:18:02 -0800
From: "Jos" <[e-mail]>
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About two weeks or so I wrotte an e-mail to various main persons in the
Amiga exposing my concerns about a problem that happened to me and that
could happend to anyone. It was mainly about buying new hardware,
specifically PPC hardware,  but software too. I expressed the problem
that if I buy a PPC accelerator I, most likely, like Fleecy Moss said
in an interview, won=B4t be able to run the new upcaming Amiga OS, and in
 that interview it was also said that if I buy an IBM powerPC
motherboard I will, most likely be able to run the new OS. So I=B4d be
wasting money in a PPC accelerator, while I could be buying for more or
less the same price, hardware that was prepared for the new Amiga. This
is quite serious and I sopose many have thought about it. The answer
came from Fleecy Moss himself, and I haven=B4t posted it yet, because I
didn=B4t knew if I was sopposed to do that. I asked but got no answer, so
since in my e-mail I said it was something that could affect us all, I
now consider it is of course to share with other persons that can have
that problem. I=B4m sorry you guys if I sometimes post and just disapear,
but I=B4m in a computer room in the University of the Algarve and can=B4t
do all I want.
Regards:
Jos=E9



The mail from Fleecy is here(:):

We will do our best to support emulation of the PPC hybrids,
  so SW bought for PPC boards should still work on the
  classic emulator. There is no reason not to buy SW for PPC
  boards.

  For the HW, we are talking to a few companies about the potential
  for creating a motherboard which can take the PPC cards and then
  come up as a standard PPC machine, on which the new Amiga will run.

  We are trying.



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:23:58 -0000
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Subject: [afb] Re: AF 134 comments
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 17 February 2000 14:09
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: AF 134 comments
>
> does it take to screw in a light bulb?
> Only two - but it's difficult to get them in there.

>>>ERROR<<< Tagline incomplete! Tagline Assimilation Failed Error 13
(Insufficient Data). Recommended action: Post complete Tagline, Reboot
Windows >>>ERROR<<<


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:25:20 +0000
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFCD2@THE_EXCHANGE>
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Hi Robert,

>> does it take to screw in a light bulb?
>> Only two - but it's difficult to get them in there.

>>>> ERROR<<< Tagline incomplete! Tagline Assimilation Failed Error 13
> (Insufficient Data). Recommended action: Post complete Tagline, Reboot
>>>> ERROR<<<

That's the only trouble with YAM, you can't add new tags and expect it still
to work... :( Time for a reboot, methinks. First one for a couple of
days...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Try: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/




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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:38:11 -0800
From: "Stephen Thwaites" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] IMHO
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Hi

Can someone please please tell me what this means?





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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:37:27 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88h14j$[e-mail]>
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Hi Stephen,

> Can someone please please tell me what this means?

Did you have a look at the acronym database on the afb site?

It means In My Humble Opinion.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If at first you do succeed, try to hide your astonishment.




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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:42:14 -0800
From: [e-mail]
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"stephen thwaites" <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47664
> Hi
>
> Can someone please please tell me what this means?
>
IMHO - In My Humble Opinion
IMO - In my Opinion
IIRC - If I recall correctly
LOL - Laughs out loud
RTFM - [No I'd better not]



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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:55:03 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <88d131$[e-mail]>
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I know the plextor 8x CDRW works..but do you achieve 8X write speed
DIRECT to
the burner????

Can you WIPE CD-RW cd's completly?

got any experience with the Yamaha 4416S?

what SCSI2 U got?
Toffy



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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:53:23 +0000 (GMT)
From: Stephen Marriott <[e-mail]>
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Stephen Thwaites wrote:

> Can someone please please tell me what this means?

http://www.currents.net/resources/dictionary/chat.html

--
Stephen Marriott - [e-mail]
HiSOFT, The Old School, Greenfield, Bedford, MK45 5DE, UK
Tel: [phone] Fax: [phone] Freecall: 0500 223 660
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Date: 17 Feb 2000 1:57:2 +0000
From: "Tom Miles" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: To all the AF team and Amiga users
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Hiya adam

On 16-Feb-00 12:42:39, you said:
>Hello, all

>I have recieved a letter this morning from a Londen University which has
>accepted me so the bad news is i will be selling my amiga and moving to
>Londen ( I have a buyer so thats good)

Why sell the computer?  I've had an Amiga through out my time at university
(nearly at an end now), and I've used lots of Student Loan money to bring a
humble a1200 almost up to date.  I'm even doing my final year project on
the poor thing!

Tom

--

Project Omega Completion: 65%+              Forced Landing Date:  April 2000
Project Webpage:                                    __
Http://www.teknogrebo.freeserve.co.uk       :      /// Amiga 1200T/040 25Mhz
UIN: 15835139                               : __  ///  603e+ 160Mhz 50Mb RAM
Techno   Grebo   Skater   Geek                : \\\///   BlizzardVisionPPC Gfx
Tatooed  Vegan  Piercing Freak                :  \XX/    4620Mb HDs  24x CDROM



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 15:07:13 +0000
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:37:27 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> > Can someone please please tell me what this means?
>
> Did you have a look at the acronym database on the afb site?

Or (even better) http://www.acronymfinder.com

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:17:52 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Haven't seen a replye...
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Have not yet seen a replye to the post I did concerning my
GVP 4008 SCSI-2 controller...so I'll try again...

Anyone have this controller and use it....I would love to get in
touch...

contact me on ICQ at 9664732 evenings or 64027477 daytime...

I need to know what specs other have and how fast it is supposed to be
and
how fast it is in reality...

please answer..


B=E5rd



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:17:50 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88h3f0$[e-mail]>
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Hi Toffypops,

> Have not yet seen a replye to the post I did concerning my
> GVP 4008 SCSI-2 controller...so I'll try again...

> Anyone have this controller and use it....I would love to get in
> touch...

If people haven't answered it's quite possible that they don't have one of
those controllers.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Try this: http://www.fishdot.org/furby/




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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:22:51 +0100
From: Tudor Davies <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: (OT) Astronomical figures (was Heart106.2 (Was: Exams))
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Ben "quippy(!) Vost wrote:

> Next person to mention the ***** ** ***** on this list will be ejected for a
> week. Of course, it'll probably seem longer than that, due to the
> relativistic nature of it all...

ROTFL :)

Owww, my leg, my leg :(

l8r
--

Tudor Davies                         Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices
                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
Team Member of AmiBench
Web: http://www.AmiBench.org         Specialist in Internet Security & ISP
Email: [e-mail]               Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing)
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:25:44 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Haven't seen a replye...
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> If people haven't answered it's quite possible that they don't have
one of
> those controllers.

I am not able to check my afb messages to frequent...
I last browsed 300 messages.....and did not spot any replye...

I only get 800KB/s with this SCSI-2 controller, and I KNOW SCSI-2 is
faster
than 800KB/s...but need to know what to do to get it to speed up.....

Burning CD's is slow with such a slow controller...

I do not mean to spam the afb at all....I'm just desperate...

:)

B=E5rd



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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:19:01 +0100
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFCBC@THE_EXCHANGE>
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Hi Robert

>> @bt.co.uk doesn't exist!?? where can I send my abusive email??

> @bt.com

> Think Duh...

So sorry, I should've known that #BRITISH# telecom would have an american
email address...

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Phone chocolate? Wouldn't that get clogged in the holes?







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:15:06 +0100
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Hi

_situation_:
3 pcs
1 amiga
all seperate

What I want to do is connect pc 1 and 2 (running win 98) and the amiga to pc
3 which will have linux on it, and will be connected to a cable modem
constantly. What I need to know it, whats the best way? I have a network
card for each pc and have been looking at the pcmcia card from eyetech (do
power do any?) so:

1) is linux suitable to run a small network from?
2) what software would I need for it?
3) is samba the best idea for doing all this?
4) how can I do the pcmcia fix myself?
5) whats the best speed I could expect to get out of it?
6) can I whoop some ass in a quake deathmatch?

Remember though, the main thing is that they can all share the net
connection

Mash
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Its not the size of the ship, its the size of the waves.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:22:40 +0100
In-Reply-To: <01bf789b$2c7e4540$2501a8c0@cix>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
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On 16-Feb-00, Eyetech tech assistance wrote:

> We make a suitable filtered adapter BTW.

> Eyetech Group Ltd

Cher-ching! ;) how convenient..

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

The Gold Latinum Card. Don't leave orbit without it.







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Date: 17 Feb 2000 12:56:45 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Ben Vost said,

> Websites are never "leached" from the net, unlike some other CDs in the
> past... :)

Miaow!

Matt Sealey may have gone, but it's still fairly catty around here :)


Neil
--
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
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Date: 17 Feb 2000 12:59:17 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Theme of Amiga
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William said,

> nice one and what was on Theme of Amiga: Back for the Future ?

Please don't post rhetorical questions to the list...


Neil
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Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
ISDN: It Still Does Nothing



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 15:52:46 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88h3f0$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Haven't seen a replye...
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:17:52 -0800, Toffypops ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Have not yet seen a replye to the post I did concerning my
> GVP 4008 SCSI-2 controller...so I'll try again...

I have one of these - I must have missed the original post.  Sorry.

> Anyone have this controller and use it....I would love to get in
> touch...

Yes, I have one.

> contact me on ICQ at 9664732 evenings or 64027477 daytime...

Or you could just email me ....

> I need to know what specs other have and how fast it is supposed to be
> and
> how fast it is in reality...

I don't know how fast it is meant to be, but it can't drive my Yamaha 4416
CD Rewriter at full speed - I have to limit it to 2x speed if I don't want
coasters every time.  The drive works fine at full speed on my CS-PPC's
SCSI 3 interface though ..

So do you have one of these cards or are you just "interested" in getting
one?

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:20:40 -0800
From: "Chris Addis" <[e-mail]>
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Hi all
Can any one out there help,i`m trying to get in touch with
active,tried email, phoning have they moved?



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 19:37:21 +0000
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http://www.villagetronic.com/amiga/pressreleases/fu20000216.html

ParaGlide Status Report, 2000-02-16

ParaGlide - the 3D add-on module for PIV

Thanks for your feedback! Two external layouters are working now on the
ParaGlide PCB. We hope the layout is finished until 2000-03-16, in the
middle of March. The following prototype production will take 3 weeks. If
we are lucky and there are no errors in the PCB, these prototypes will be
fully functional and the complete set of manufacturing data can be reused
for mass production.

In this best case the mass production ParaGlides could start shipping end
of April 2000.

But any errors in the first prototype PCB will cause a 3 to 4 weeks delay.

Thanks for your patience!

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Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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Date: 17 Feb 2000 19:50:21 +0000
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Matthew O'Neill said,

>> @bt.com

> So sorry, I should've known that #BRITISH# telecom would have an american
> email address...

.com isn't American, it's a global commercial address.


Neil
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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From: Mark Wilson <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:53:23 +0000
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AmiBench News Dated 17/02/2000
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

AmiBench seems to be suffering attacks from a disgruntled Amiga user,

If you see any rude advert on amibench *do not* respond to it on amibench=
,
and please, dont try to respond to the advert the 'person' places as its =
not a
valid address (something like sonik.sonik.sonik).

I dont want you people to get involved in this, and to be honest, I rathe=
r
he attacked AmiBench rather than your mail box. If you place any advert, =
and
receive an offensive email, from someone who has contacted you via AmiBen=
ch,
then please contact me at [e-mail].

The same goes if you do find an advert, that you consider is in bad taste=
, or damnright
offensive, please contact me at [e-mail]

Currently We have no way of logging the Internet Address (IP) of the pers=
on
who is doing this (We are working on this though),   As its happend twice=
 in two days, and if it continues, It may force us to *close*AmiBench. =


If you have any idea who it is, please contact me, at my email address at=

[e-mail], Dont worry, I will not mention any names (from people =
who
give me information). =


We would just like to get this situation resolved as soon as possable. =

 =

(feel free to repost in the public domain)

Mark Wilson : Public Relations for AmiBench  =


Web: #http://www.AmiBench.org#
Email: [e-mail]




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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:49:18 +0100
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On 17-Feb-00, Gerald Mellor wrote:

>> Now all we gotta do is find sealey...

> Why so eager? Do you know how long it took us to *lose* him? ;)

Good point, maybe we should evacuate everyone onto a list with a new name
while he's gone? =D

Mash -
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If it makes sense, it's against liberal policy.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:29:36 +0100
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On 17-Feb-00, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

>> Glowicons, whoopidoo.  Just fancy frilly rubbish.

> But the new icon format is more than that.  Convert all your old icons toi
> the new format and save hard drive space ...

oohh ohhh ohhh!, a few k more space, rejoice!

> What new bugs?  In my opinion, anyone with a heavily patched system should
> upgrade as it provides a lot of much needed stability and incorporates a
> lot of said patches internally.  My system is a lot more stable than it
> used to be with the installation of OS3.5 ...

So what patches could I ditch then? I'd still need MCP, Visualprefs,
executive, and all the stuff in my wbstartup, I'd have to keep all of them.
3.5 would just increase the chances of something breaking, not reduce them.

Mash -
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Ura Redneck if your mule backs up to every stump it sees.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:05:38 +0100
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Hi Ben
> Hi,

> I'll probably get shot for breaking NDA and posting this here, but I
> thought you should know...

How was that breaking an NDA ?

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Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
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Pun Farr: Vulcan sex jokes.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:30:56 +0100
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Hi Tim

>> And where abouts in this wide world do I have to go to collect this
>> Prized Pat on the back?

> I suppose you could go to the nearest farm, and lay under a cow... ;-)

Or Greendale....

Mash -
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Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Foolproof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools.







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From: "Paul Cundle" <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 21:23:15 +0000
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MSGTO: Neil Bothwick
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> > Don't worry, I did. I read the reply all the way through but it didn't
> > actually give an explanation - only that it didn't get through.

> That's all the server know, that it tried to deliver but couldn1't get
> through to the destination mail server.
> If you knock on someone's door and they don't answer, all you know is
> that they didn't answer.

But I didn't know it didn't know, if you know what I mean. That's why
I asked.

> Neil

Paul C, this week
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From: "Jonathan Day" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:46:46 -0000
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Hi Ben
>
> > Pages 18-19 about the roms swap looks great apart from the empty
space
> > in the top right hand corner which could have been used for a ad or
> > something.

Ah, but first you need an ad...  Also, I think AF would look better if
it can keep editorial on separate pages from adverts for as long as
possible.

> > last point, on page 62 Mailbag there is a old photo of someone in
the top
> > left corner which needs to be changed to something with an amiga
made
> > background. and about the b/w cartoon on pages 62-63 ? surely the
mailbag
> > could print a few more letters if this was not there

Noooo!  Don`t get rid of Sabrina!  I know I could read them all online,
I know that they`re not about Amiga anymore, but they`re still fine
strips that make me laugh.

> Not really. We don't get that many letters since the advent of email.
The
> issue we're working on now even had to pinch one off afb to fill some
> space...
>
Dear Ben,

Weather`s lousy, have come down with a cold.  Wish you were here instead
of me.  Lots of love, Jon.

> > But as saying that the mag is still as good as it was in the early
90~s

Better :-)

Jon



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From: "Jonathan Day" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:01:53 -0000
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Hi Matt

> > A couple of weeks ago I posted some questions about a bargain 1200 I
was going to buy.  Well a couple of days ago that bargain arrived.
(60+10 p&p for an A1200, Blizzard 1230 030/50MHz accelerator card with
8Mb, 170Mb HDD, Multisync monitor, external 1.76Mb XL floppy drive
(whatever this is - HD floppy drive even?), several leads, joysticks,
mice etc. and a sh*tload of floppy disks in disk boxes!)

> Only 10 P&P??

May I add to that: Only 60 + 10 p&p?  Bargin city :-).

> > I hadn't seen a 1200 before this, so I opened it up.  (Amigas have
personalities y'know, and I always open the computer to kinda 'get to
know it'...)

> True enough ...

You might want to consider fiddling around in there long enough to give
a blood offering too, just to show you care ;-)

Jon



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From: "Jonathan Day" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:34:55 -0000
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Hi Peter


> > AFB is better than a woman , at least you can always turn on AFB
> >
> No, it's getting rid of a woman after you've turned them on is the
hard
> part - to get rid of AFB all you have to do is unplug your modem - to
> get rid of a woman that you've turned on, you have to flirt with their
> sister!

> (Well, it's horrible when thay have an ugly sister! (Not happened to
me
> though...I've usually prefered the sister anyway...:o) ))
>
<cough> I`ve heard </cough> it works better with their mum ;-)

Jon



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From: "Jonathan Day" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:24:51 -0000
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Hi Stephen
>
> We are pleased to announce that the rights to manufacture and sell the
> Surf Squirrel, Classic Squirrel and Whippet products have been sold to
> Analogic Computers:

Are HiSoft preparing to leave the Amiga market?

Jon



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From: "Jonathan Day" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:32:42 -0000
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Hi Mark
>
> It is very unlikely that AmiBench will appear on Amiga Format CD Roms,
not
> because I dont want it to (any kind of advertising is good) but
because
> AmiBench is CGI-BIN driven, Sadly, There is no way to make the website
work
> offline easily.
>
> Sorry Guys :\

You`d better say sorry again to everyone else to whom you sent this ;-)

I can`t really see the point of AmiBench appearing on the CD since by
the time you looked at the site, isn`t it likely that what you wanted
would already be sold?

Jon



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